MechaZain

Someone please check on Igo

The NBA's cut down on the flopping and with it becoming increasingly a shooters league players are drawing fouls mid-shot more, so it evens out.

Took an act of God. Before CMC went down Samuel's RB abilities were an afterthought. An end-around play in the backfield every once in a blue to be cute. I just think it's super disappointing and kind of strange that we have this Madden playing college hotshot OC who can't figure out how to scheme two gadget players together. Christian and Curtis could be a RB/WR tandem like the league's never seen if they put some thought into it.

Great question OP. Both historic seasons. LaMelo led all rookies in point/rebounds/steal/assists going into the All-Star break and no one else has done that in 60 years. Saw some other stat that was just him, Steph Curry, and Jason Kidd alone on the list. The Lebron/Cam comparison is great. He was putting the team on his back a lot, which is much crazier for one football player to do versus one basketball player. LaMelo's awesome but this season is a perfect storm for the Hornets in general. Take him out and this is still probably the best group of shooters Charlotte's ever had on the floor.

Oof. Stick a fork in Ian Thomas.

He missed the preseason and part of camp his rookie season so I don't blame Rivera for bringing him along slowly initially. Then he went on IR week 10. Then Cam went under the knife after the season. So there's just the first half of 2018 really, both guys were coming off major injuries, and we went 6-2 so there wasn't much urgency in figuring it out. I honestly think the current coaching staff, who I consider better strategists than Rivera's, has handled Samuel worse. You have Christian McCaffery, a QB you don't want throwing more than 20 yards downfield, and you can't figure out how to use the only 1000/1000 player in Ohio State's history? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

In Ron’s defense I wonder how many healthy Curtis and Cam games we even had

Will and Robby put on absolute shows against us

Vernon must be looking raw af in practice for JB to be bringing him along this slowly. With Zeller out and him having his way with the G League you'd think he'd be called up. Biz can barely catch a pass out there.

I'd be ok rolling with Teddy for another year if we got Sewell.

We wouldn't even be an appealing destination for him after that. Might as well go to Miami.

Because he's the Checkdown King and we have Christian McCaffery. I got their vision. They just overestimated him in the end.

3 first rounders keeps getting thrown around. I don't have a lot of faith in us drafting The Guy in that timeframe. CMC was out for most of the season and we still managed 5 wins. The team is against tanking so we're not going to be like the Jets or Jags and positioned to get a top QB. And whether it's for Deshaun or a rookie it's set in stone that at LEAST one of our first rounders will be spent trying to get a quarterback. There's just a lot of uncertainty and things hurting our odds when it comes to drafting "The Guy" within the next three years, so I'd give away those picks in a heartbeat if it meant solving that dilemma.

Same core team on defense maybe but they also added Gronk, AB, Fournette along with Tom Brady

TheSpecialJuan's clickbait titles are way more annoying than Mr. Scot's shtick

The team account doesn't engage in that stuff or any sort of negativity around the players really, but just about every Panthers related post on social media lately is full of fans in the replies trashing Teddy and thirsting for Deshaun. He's been caught using a burner account to comment before so we know he's incapable of just ignoring it. You're probably right.

Teddy is marginally better than Kyle Allen at like 15x the cost.

You're basing that entirely on your opinion of the position's value and not the actual market for the top runningback in football. It was $15m/yr and everyone knew he was was better. We can argue till the cows come about whether they should be getting that much.

idk about the Jimmy rumor but Shaq and Teddy suddenly unfollowing when Houston needs to replace stars at both positions would be an incredible coincidence

No one under contract "needs" to be extended what are you talking about. You do it early to try and get them at a good price before they're a free agent. Christian would have gotten at least 15m/yr with or without us.

You might be onto something.

You just knew the injuries would start right after the ink dried, huh? Pfft, no hindsight.... You're forgetting how high Christian's stock was at the time. Barring a career threatening injury Zeke's money was the starting point.

The market was $15m/yr for the top RB in the league at the time. Hurney had a guy that was even better, and managed to only pay an extra $1m/yr more for him. That's good negotiation on both parts. I totally get you. The debate over whether the position is overvalued in general is completely valid, but relative to his peers it was good deal and arguably a bargain on Hurney's part.

Easy to say with hindsight. He was looking inhumanely durable at the time and if that continued we would have had to pay more or someone else would have at the end of his rookie deal. Dallas set the market with Zeke months before CMC's deal.

"He not special, just another hall of fame dual threat RB" is a nonsensical take IMO. I also think he's a more natural receiver than either and could play it full time if he had to, but that's beside the point. I'm not arguing about the value of the RB position in the modern NFL. I take issue with everyone acting like it was another crazy overspend on Hurney's part. You can argue about whether it's justified on the field but the market is what it is. He locked in the top RB in the league for just a little more than the going rate.