Joe Bear

Already lost so many players to injury on the OL that 4-13 is now officially clinched, but I do want to challenge the "don't even point fingers at one person" crowd today to keep that energy the rest of the year, because I'm thinking that's gonna be an impossible challenge for them.

This is easily the worst loss in franchise history when you consider: - the real NFL QB backup savior has had one of worst QB performances I've ever seen - run defense with the worst performance I've ever seen - James Cook all-time NFL single-game rushing yards record - starting C injured and out - starting RG injured and out - starting RT injured and out - biggest margin of defeat in franchise history

I think Dalton could take the snap, turn around backwards and chuck the ball inside the 5, and Canales would say "eh, he probably won't do it again," then trot him back out there.

I really didn't want James Cook to put up 300 yards today, but he might put up 400.

Some impressive young and veteran pieces on this team and definitely more than there's been, but there are still too many people in important positions who are simply unplayable at the NFL.

Likely Moton's last game of the year and another reason why he shouldn't have been extended for big bucks.

Still early.

Already thrown too many passes today IMO.

Great move.

Yeah he definitely deserves criticism for that. Riding the cold hand is wild. But this is a blowout because of the run defense not existing, guys not tackling, and the QB.

The coach ain't the one taking sacks at the worst time and throwing picks...

And yet he isn't as good.

Yep.

OP must've forgotten to add Bryce Perkins and Jack Plummer.

Malik Willis, as much as I'd like it to be valid, is not an upgrade. Nor is Mac Jones.

Big win and a great, great job from Kon and Kalkbrenner. LaMelo and Miller balled out, per usual.

This was probably the highlight of the season for some on here.

23-49 passing 229 yards 4.7 YPA 1 TD 1 INT 59 QB rating Not what you want from a franchise QB.

I did add fumbles.

He was third in the league after last week, until MNF at least.

I believe the point of the thread was addressing what his numbers were since coming back from being benched.

Fantastic work.

No, it's actually right. I looked it up on PFR. Since week 8 at Denver last year: 26 TDs passing, 6 TDs rushing (32 total TDs) 11 INTs, 5 lost fumbles (16 total turnovers). When you factor in the record and the yardage, he's a respectable game manager. Whether he was acquired for that or not is irrelevant 2.5 years later. He is what he is. Dude is not gonna be the franchise QB people thought he'd be, but he's also not one of the worst QBs who ever played an NFL snap like others think. As bad as people think he is, you could -- statistically speaking -- do far worse (look at guys who've started here, like PJ Walker, Will Grier, Randy Fasani, Taylor Heinicke, Frank Reich for that matter). That's the scary part.

Appears he did to the extent that he wasn't held out and he ran it 14 times.

But Chuba's also a human being who isn't going to just lay down and accept being Wally Pipp'd.