Joe Bear

Couple months. By then, Clowney, Johnson, Thielen, Sanders, Shaq and Jaycee "Two Games" Horn will have been on IR for a while. That's how they're losing 98-0.

I don't disagree, but this team is different. They're going to set every possible record for futility on offense and defense, and you can't count out several interception and fumble returns to get past 60 points in the first half.

They're gonna get No. 1 in 2025, 2026, 2027, 2028, 2029, 2030, 2031 and 2032 at least. There's every reason to believe we're in for a 50-game losing streak at minimum.

Move over, 1940 Redskins, this one's gonna destroy that score. Chiefs 98 Panthers 0 It'll be 70-0 at halftime (five Mahomes TD passes, two TD runs, two Young pick-sixes, one blocked punt TD).

"Deal." - Tepper

Two Jonathan Mingos and three Amare Barnos aren't going to help.

Carr was terrible. He handed the 2010 Panthers a win.

I mean entering week 2, this is unquestionably the worst defense in NFL history. The records for fewest points scored, fewest first downs, fewest third-down conversions, most points allowed, most first downs, and most third-down conversions in a season will all be absolutely obliterated this year. They may not score 50 points all season and there's no way they don't allow less than 600. And to top it all off, the Chiefs are winning 84-0 in November.

They're absolutely losing at least one game 80-0. There's no way it doesn't happen.

86 points scored 605 points allowed 0-17 No loss by less than 17 points

Strap in. We're in for a 40-game losing streak. They're going 0-17 next year, too.

I predicted it in the game predictions thread.

Ordinarily yes, but look at that defensive lineup. 2015 Cam might get you to 3-14. It's a swiss-cheese offense and no FA QB or Dalton is going to get a win. 16 more losses til draft time.

I concur. This team is the worst in NFL history but there was still effort. There's not enough talent.

What? He absolutely was. His first touch was a lost fumble that set up a touchdown. His second one, he fumbled again.

Yeah I like Canales. He's been given a lemon for the most part but he's a high-energy guy who could be good if given some good pieces and some freedom.

Hmmm. Guess we'll see then...

Brown won't. Horn I'd entertain, but I think Morgan's less likely to be Trader Fitt, the architect of 3-4 playoff teams (but not the one that employed him), and more likely to scour waiver wires and work free agency. Whoever expected a quick fix was delusional. This roster is full of holes and it's not because of the GM and coach who've been in their positions for 1 game. It's because of years and years of sustained ineptitude, poor trades and drafts.

You have to pick whoever is willing to play here. At least 3/4 of the people you listed will have their agents tell Morgan "we're not playing there".

I respect Canales for giving individual players a chance today. He put Mingo and Young in positions to make plays and they turned the ball over more often than they made plays. He's got little to work with and I'm not pinning this on the coach. Young's going to have his phantom injury around Week 9 or Week 10. Until then, just deal with this. It's not going to be anything but 0-17 regardless of who's taking snaps. Look at that defense...

The problem is Dalton's not going to win you any games (and whichever QB next year who won't refuse to play here won't either) because there are so many holes throughout the roster. I'd take losing 37-21 over 47-10, sure, but I'd prefer to win and we're not going to see any wins until 2026 at the earliest.

It's not on the QB when you fumble the ball, and he did it twice in his first two touches. Young being awful is a separate category; when you have the ball in your hands and you hold it like a loaf of bread it's an individual skill issue, not a QB issue.

QB-wise, 5 turnovers is worse than 2. The 2009 game had promise and expectation of success. I look at 2 picks and a 47-10 loss and think, well, that's probably not the worst it'll be this season.

Completely agree. Piss on the concept of "second favorites" and "backup teams". The NFL doesn't deserve that option.

Randy Fasani was the worst. You could give him 17 games as a rookie and he's not putting up 200 yards, let alone 300, in one of them. He just wasn't a quarterback (but he was drafted). Clausen, Weinke, Young, Mayfield are all in a tier below him.