Joe Bear

OP must've forgotten to add Bryce Perkins and Jack Plummer.

Malik Willis, as much as I'd like it to be valid, is not an upgrade. Nor is Mac Jones.

Big win and a great, great job from Kon and Kalkbrenner. LaMelo and Miller balled out, per usual.

This was probably the highlight of the season for some on here.

23-49 passing 229 yards 4.7 YPA 1 TD 1 INT 59 QB rating Not what you want from a franchise QB.

I did add fumbles.

He was third in the league after last week, until MNF at least.

I believe the point of the thread was addressing what his numbers were since coming back from being benched.

Fantastic work.

No, it's actually right. I looked it up on PFR. Since week 8 at Denver last year: 26 TDs passing, 6 TDs rushing (32 total TDs) 11 INTs, 5 lost fumbles (16 total turnovers). When you factor in the record and the yardage, he's a respectable game manager. Whether he was acquired for that or not is irrelevant 2.5 years later. He is what he is. Dude is not gonna be the franchise QB people thought he'd be, but he's also not one of the worst QBs who ever played an NFL snap like others think. As bad as people think he is, you could -- statistically speaking -- do far worse (look at guys who've started here, like PJ Walker, Will Grier, Randy Fasani, Taylor Heinicke, Frank Reich for that matter). That's the scary part.

Appears he did to the extent that he wasn't held out and he ran it 14 times.

But Chuba's also a human being who isn't going to just lay down and accept being Wally Pipp'd.

So you're confirming he's an upgrade over most coaches here.

Chuba has earned more than the benefit of the doubt over his career here. He'll turn it around.

Happy for XL to have a good game, it's been forever. Both QBs were just barely effective enough today and anyone who feels otherwise has an agenda one way or the other. Shout-out Derrick Brown and the defense!