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Those 4th down tuddies were dots you miserable fugs

Those ain't darts. Darts you see all the time. You will know an unbelievable pass when you see one. They are as rare as a Hollywood virgin.

LOL, finally something we can 100% agree on. I almost quoted it and said, "so you've only seen less than 5 dart throws in your life?"

Fair point, but then again, we're getting into semantics and then where maybe everyone views things differently. If you're factoring in situation, I'd call it a "play" and not a "throw", and you can't deny, I've said numerous times in this thread that I was giving him full credit for making the throw in that situation. Personally, I view a "play" and a "throw" as totally separate things. A play takes everything into consideration, a throw is literally just about the throw itself and the physical skill required to make it.

Tampa has a pretty easy schedule. They have both Atl and N.O. at home so an upset by either of these two teams is pretty slim. There only other game is Miami, who has been playing better lately but it's going to be tough. We are going to have to win against TB twice and New Orleans. We'd both end up 10-7 if we beat them both games. We'd have the tie breaker from head to head. It's a huge task but if we can beat them in Carolina in week 15 we have a chance in the final game. If we beat Seattle it going to be quite interesting.

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No, it's whatever you want it to be.

Alabama just seems like the easy answer to choose for any team these days. After that, I'd guess ND is on the list just since we seem to have all their TE's in school history on the roster right now. Probably also South Carolina Then the last I actually feel like I remember seeing the Panthers tweet out a picture of players all from one school on our roster right now and thinking "man that's a random school to have so many players from" Was it Ole Miss?

I may have only seen 2 or 3 of those throws in my life. I'm not sure they have a classification other than unbelievable.

I’m not defending Bryce on his overall performance, just defending his play in this particular game.

So I am clear, do we have a distinction between dart and dot?

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/steelers-claim-adam-thielen-waivers-vikings/ Good call

I'm not sure you see a lot of those throws on 4th and short under those same circumstances. Thats not a routine thow my friend. On 1st or second down throughout the game? Sure. The pressure to make those throws are much different.

I generally judge a dart to be the QB pass version of the Beckham Jr catch. I'm sitting there asking myself how the F did he make that throw.

I would classify that as one as well. There's so few of those in games that's why the comment get made. It's any past the takes accuracy, timing, a great deal of difficulty to complete and pressure.

I never mentioned the term dot, i said they were perfect throws. Those were clutch throws on 4th down that won the game, just giving the man credit.

If Rhule was still here this would be a landslide.

That's still semantics then as to what you'd call this specific pass. My point was THIS is the type of pass that deserves superlatives to be used to describe it, whatever you want to call said superlative is sure, personal opinion. But that's my generic stance in this thread, the pass needs to be special to be called "slinging dots downfield" or whatever else you want to call it. Those two TD passes were certainly good passes, I'm not trying to say they were bad. But in reality, they were pretty standard throws for an NFL QB to be able to make (and honestly, pretty standard for most college QB's as well), hence why I can't agree with calling it dot, dart, dime, or whatever else you want to use.

I think the biggest issue with Young is that when he has a bad game he has a really bad game. There's no middle ground. If he can manage to limit those to 1 or 2 games a season he might has a chance.

I've seen a few. Laser throw into triple coverage that misses the defender's hands by a hair and you ask yourself how did the receiver even see it much less catch it. Those are darts. Perfect placed pass on an insanely critical play for a first down or TD. There can be short yardage darts, but they've got a higher criteria to meet, IMO.

Gotta say, Im impressed with Tmac as is. Coker, I'm excited for his development. Legette is fuggin with my mind though. He has all the potential in the world but just cant seem to lock in. Hopefully that switch flips and he has a resurgence similar to his last year at South Carolina. Worst case, we got another guy who I think needs more snaps... Tremayne. Hell of a blocker... should be a Panther longer than most expect. Back to the OP, we'll see if he gets OROY but I do like him more than rookie DJ and Kelvin at this point.

No, I would call it a bullet or zip pass but I would not argue against it being either.

One trend I'm seeing in these repetitive circular conversations that ultimately go nowhere is the need for people who are super defensive of him to hit the "reset button" as if he is still a rookie. Even if we can look past the 49ers loss the Saints loss is just completely inexcusable. They still only have 2 wins and one of them was against us in our own stadium. That is poverty plain and simple. At the end of the day where we are with Bryce Young is he is having Kyle Allen level peaks in between very underwhelming perfomances. And at the end of the day Kyle Allen only got 13 games. Thirteen. And he was undrafted. Bryce Young is 42 games in and he is a #1 pick. Nobody is being unfair to him folks. But there's no need to continue to eviscerate one another through the bye week. We will have the answers we seek in New Orleans. Because frankly my expectations are high. We should not play down to the level of our competition against them. Honestly I expect Bryce and company to blow them out. If we are serious about winning the division and making the playoffs for the first time in many years that is what it is going to take.

Going to go with SC, Alabama, ND and Wofford