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People don’t seem to get that I am not defending this guy or impugning the victim or the police (outside of that photo lol), but that I am pointing out the sad state of the legal process and low ethics of attorneys these days. I am not arguing facts of the case, and am pointing that these ambulance chasers disregard facts and make up these narratives because sucker juries sometimes have such great biases that they nullify. The attorneys go for their Hail Marys and it happens nearly every damned week in the news. With a judge or a DA not charging, releasing, and juries ignoring the law because they take a side on an issue. It is a common and predictable game plan and I am saying don’t be surprised at the absurdities these attorneys try to pass off as reality. The popular strategy is turn the criminal into the victim. Facts never get in the way of these fugers arguing for bullshit when it comes to the police. Who I am not a fan of and don’t trust fwiw but all you have to do is observe and you will see them do it. As far as punishment, the league has been less lenient than judges in most of these cases. So I expect them to drop the hammer. Actually I might have been pondering how a guy with millions of his own and a big time fancy car throws it all away on LaWanda.

Plus Phillips didn't out scheme us. He simply utilized his pass rushers against our weak to mediocre tackles. They played physical. We didnt

Okay thanks cool. Reading your post it’s coming back to me, but I should refresh my familiarity before I start ranting at why would we have been chasing a guy with that on his record and facing a suspension… The stuff about how it would or would not affect his contract can go for any team… in this case the Texans. It is more a wondering at why people that break basically what would be called a morals clause are not impacted contractually.

Probably not. Do the picks that bounce of XLs hands count though? We can throw those in for free to sweeten the deal.

Cleveland traded for Watson long after the incident. His issues have been bad play and injury since then. Why would that relieve Cleveland of financial obligations? That poo happened when he was a Texan. There was a full year a public drama and legal proceedings in the media and then Cleveland traded for him knowing all of of It.

So sad how many people want to stay bitter.

It's a shame he wasn't first ballot. There have been several great LBs to play this game but I don't believe there was anyone like Luke. His ability to diagnose plays before they happened was very unique to him. Almost every year when they posted the top 100 it was one thing every player said about him. Great Honor for LLLUUUUUKKKKKEEEE

The cop side aside, if there is even the tiniest bit of evidence about him ramming her car multiple times with his own to try and run her off the road, there is no way they'll be able to play him as the victim unless they say she had a gun and shot at him before he did it. If there is ever any public evidence of that or him hitting the cop with his car, he'll never play another snap in the NFL. Teams can sell second chances to their fans with no public evidence, but if there is any public evidence of DA in today's day and age, that player is never stepping into an NFL locker room again, as they shouldn't.

Historically elite? They werent the best defense that season They were 4th in points allowed that season just 2 ahead of us with less than 1 point per game separating. They were 2nd in yards in 15 but there were 6 teams this season alone that gave up fewer yards per game.

Miami is looking to lure Derrick Carr out of retirement, who said he's interested for the right scenario https://www.facebook.com/share/r/16vDzdLtFp/

100% chance he's much, much better than Bryce Young. 0% chance we bring him in.

fair I still wouldn't trade up for him

Not a fan of drafting an edge rusher this year. They usually take a year or two to develop if they're not a Top 5 pick type of prospect. Would much rather make an edge rusher our top FA signing and then use the draft to find a starting LB or DB (or LT if one falls to us given Ickey's status). Just seems like the better allocation of resources this offseason, much easier to find an impact MLB late in the 1st round than a pass rusher, just as spending big money on an edge rusher is likely to get you a better ROI than big money on a LB.

This guy is cooked regardless of Strato insulting the appearance of the victim.

Did you read any of the articles?

Bain/Brown would be tough. Rotating in the other guys as well

which was why giving him a fresh 2 year deal was fuging stupid last year. What was the point?

Don’t think Bain is there at 11. But he’s arguably a top 5 prospect.

This is why I hated the Dalton deal last year. He wasn't good in his stint before when Bryce was benched, and we signed him to 2 years almost fully guaranteed when he already had one foot in the career grave and the other on a banana peel. I'm still of the mind that they decided to sign the 5th year last season and signed Dalton to keep Young comfortable until he was finished with at least year 4. I'm going to laugh like hell though when they extend Dalton another year after they announce Bryce's 5th year option. They'll call it a restructuring for cap relief but we'll know what it really is. Keep that QB room competition free.

Yeah I would say if they had an out they would obviously have taken it. Just seems like these big deals should have some clauses in them for criminal type behavior. I guess his exposure was civil more than criminal…. the victims more interested in settlement money than seeing him punished with a conviction. Like I said I haven’t really followed and I guess I am saying it a shame he still gets paid out on that deal. That the team has to give it up, and that he profits so much from doing harm.

Now if we could package XL and 19 to move up to 11, I'd be all for that. Heck, I'm sure we've got a copy of Hurney's notes on how not to bust on your 1st round pick in a desk somewhere to include in the deal.

Crosby is already expensive and about to be 30. I'd prefer the younger cheaper option. Thibs didn't get a ton of sacks this year but his pressures were up (might make him a little cheaper). I really think he is one of the reasons Burns got so many sacks. The new contract coming up is another reason he could be traded for less like Burns was for us, but that may fall more into next year.

Crosby is already expensive and about to be 30. I'd prefer the younger cheaper option. Thibs didn't get a ton of sacks this year but his pressures were up (might make him a little cheaper). I really think he is one of the reasons Burns got so many sacks. The new contract coming up is another reason he could be traded for less like Burns was for us, but that may fall more into next year.

Howell is obviously my preference but I wouldn't mind Mariota or Trubisky if we want to go the more established vet backup type guy. We just have to realize that we need to sign someone who might make Bryce look bad in camp by comparison. It is what it is.

It came dangerously close to cashing out. LOL