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sign me up. Allar, him or beck in the mid rounds would be fine

I can't really blame predictable play calling on the players. Our pass rush wasn't strong this year so consistently relying on a three or four man rush and playing soft zone on the backend on third and long and late game situations is just asking for trouble. Horn is a player I'd put some heat on. We need that guy to be better. He got burned in coverage numerous times in key situations and his tackling was piss poor. We paid him to be a shutdown corner and that's what we need him to be. Honestly, in the latter part of the season Mike Jackson was our best corner.

I don’t know that that is his deal. A guy that amassed the fortune he has, has to be driven.

The theme for the offseason last year, by the teams own mouths, was to improve their tackling and bring in player's that could stop the run. What happened? I sure haven't noticed much improvement. Only DB knows how to tackle and if f not for him it would be on par with last years defense.

He certainly is dominant physically. I doubt he is a match for Canales’ preferred play style. But if we took a day 3 flier I promise not to complain if he does nothing. Just keep taking those shots.

I dislike made up stats that are being used to blow smoke up our ass. BTT, GWD, QBR

I said this in another thread just now but a lot is on the players. Tackling is horrible. They have allowed it. That is on players and the position coaches and Evero. Just adding some talent and tightening that shoddy tackling up should improve things. Plus the guys we drafted this year got a lot of snaps. They’ll have their first offseason as pros and in an NFL strength and conditioning program, I expect every one of them to be better next year.

Now try doing it taking bpa instead of need.

It's crazy to me that you are more concerned about the 6 people that are tired of watching his brand of limp dick football than you are with the 25 that voted option 8, 9, or 10. I would argue those 25 have a much lower mental capacity than the 6 that want him gone. We have tons of proof of him being statistically one of the worst QBs in the league over the past 3 seasons, yet we still have people that think he is actually a good QB.

Why do you guys keep saying this? I already know this. My post was in terms of the chart and the OP's point which was mainly based upon Bryce's "Total QBR." Even if you dislike QBR, you must dislike Total QBR either the same or worse because it's more subjective, as it's based upon opponents. I generally don't believe that you can use any of these rankings or stats within a vacuum, but at least I know what passer rating is based on, and I can always peruse raw stats by myself. All of these metrics, stats and ultimately rankings should be juxtaposed against contextual perspectives in my opinion, otherwise you can come away with some wildly varied, or even misguided, opinions and judgements.

The one good thing is that our OL coach did a great job this year of handling a lot of injury issues and still fielding a unit that was able to perform at a decent level.

Shīt happens. Extent Yoshi and draft another tackle. We can't make panic moves over it when we already have the highest amount of salary cap in the league dedicated to the OL. We need more pieces on defense bad. Bryce Young is about to get the 5th year option. He's going to have to begin getting used to us having to make sacrifices.

I don’t disagree but like with my opinion of Bryce what limitations he puts on the offense, and my strong suspicion that the playbook is thinner because of him, and the ripple effect that has overall, I don’t think Evero has been given the tools to make things work much better. Princely’s opinions notwithstanding. Now, this 3rd down poo? Very disappointing. A good bit does fall on the players. The poor tackling is a concern as well, I hate watching that stuff. Position coaches have some responsibility there too. And granted that is his cross to bear in that he put them in place and allowed the lack of attention to those details to exist. But how hard is it it to fuging wrap up? I would fine players for the shoulder tackles. I hate that. Laps, fines, benching, whatever it takes to tighten that up, do it. Before I send him to the trash heap, I want to give it one more draft and FA.

The two people that voted for option 10 are probably Bryce Young's parents.

My biggest issue with Evero is how consistent he is with playing soft in key situations. We suck on 3rd and long and in key late game scenarios because everyone knows he's going to call off the dogs and sit back in soft zone coverage. You can't be that predictable in this league. If the other team knows what you're going to do in certain situations you're cooked.

I think he is doing pretty good with using Moehrig in multiple roles. I am fairly patient until my mind is totally made up then I am just stubborn. I do like to cut slack where I think it is warranted. The offensive and defensive cap numbers belie the disparity in assets allocated to Evero compared to the offense. As bad as they were last season, I couldn’t fault anyone. Raising this defense out of poverty was more that a one year job. This was just the first year, so… leeway from me. It hurts not having a tight D but the reality is what it is. He has not been given a first rounder yet. Until this year, no second rounder. They took Burns (which I agreed with basically) but gave him little in return and diverted the booty in picks and cap to the OL basically. They just flat pillaged his pantry and cut off his SNAP. I would feel that way about any DC it just happens to be him. I believe Dan is committed to raising the floor over on that side and expect a few things will be addressed. Losing Icky puts a bit of a damper on how much he can do, but the will is there. IMO.

I don't think you move on from Icky, but I do think you have to move forward cautiously and make plans for him not recovering from this. He's under contract next year and will hopefully be able to return for at least some of next season for us to get a look at him on the field in live action. With his serious injury question mark and Moton's age and whispers about his potential degenerative knee conditions, the potential for an early OT pick is definitely there. Honestly, I'd say it's expected. I'll be a little surprised if we don't draft an OT with one of our first three picks I just hope we don't force it.

I like Howell in the 2nd if he's still there

Yeah they can get a good player at #5

If I was a cap guru I'd be working in an NFL front office but what years of following the NFL has taught me is that where there's a will there's a way in regards to the cap.

Might be similar to Fox’s roster when he came here. The bones were there and he whipped them into form. Getting Peppers didn’t hurt but NYG also have a high pick to get some help with. 1-15 when came in, got it to 7-9, then to 11-5. 2 years. But 1-15 to 7-9 tells you that was an underachieving team in 2001.

That rams td was an amazing highlight catch and throw.

I should look that up. How much the top Gs make now, who they are… But good lord my reaction is for 100 million he better be. I would expect top 5 for that contract. His deal is two years in so not really cutting edge for the upcoming FA. I am not dogging him, he is a good player and an asset but also I have seen him losing matchups, getting pushed around. In my cheapskate mind no 100 million dollar guard should be having that happen. I guess honestly I feel like we could do better for that money. At the same time 100 mil for any right guard is shocking to me, it is walk on water territory.

If Cam Newton had thrown a pass like that at the receivers knees with the game on the line in the playoffs we'd be hearing about it all offseason and it damn sure wouldn't matter that the WR was a rookie. No standards here anymore.