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Great write up. I think we're going to try to keep both of the guys we've gotten from the Vikings on that DE/OLB rotation. I don't think they ever had the chance to get up to speed together. And I really agree with you about Clowney. I really think this room really is going to depend on whether our long-term goal is to continue with 3-4 (I hope not) or go back to 4-3 full time. I'm hoping the safety situation and the LB situation don't end up biting us in the butt. I just don't see where we've gotten better there yet. I hope I'm wrong about this. O-line... just when things are jelling, you find out this might be the last season the group can expect to be together... that's just our history here. Again. Any thoughts on Moose's kid, Moose 3, coming as an undrafted FA WR?

That’s interesting to know. He’s adjusting and conditioning to what feels like the optimal situation for him. I’ll tell you, sounds like he’s been coached very well to recognize those things, have the strong run game skills and continuing to build out his moveset. He really seems like a high floor guy that I’m just surprised lasted that long. Feel really string about him and Princely. Just tough guys with good experience, size, skills, there’s no weird outlier question marks with either of them.

I've been here through all of that. I'm like a cockroach. I'm not going anywhere.

Yeah, we kinda found out didn't we. A lot of the people who whined constantly left and a lot of the toxicity just magically vanished with them with zero changes in how we moderated the site. Wild. It's almost like the folks who were constantly complaining about toxicity were causing a lot of the toxicity. Listen, some folks were unhappy here so they left and created a place where they're happier. Good. That's how the internet should work. That's the beautiful thing about the internet. If there isn't a virtual place that you think should exist you can create that place. But you really have to stop trying to drag us back to that place of toxicity. If you like the Discord group, cool. If you still like it here too, great. But don't keep dragging up this bullshit. Do you see me going over to their group and calling them a bunch of whiners? No. They created the place that they wanted and I'm genuinely happy for them. Participate here without constantly bringing that poo up or just leave and stay over there.

He has the arm talent you want with good size and mechanics (can break down under pressure). I feel like PSU never really turned him loose, but they also didn’t hard any great weapons not named Warren. I could see him as a Herbert type prospect who makes a better pro when he gets away from his college’s scheme. I doubt he makes it out of round 1 unless he regresses big time without Warren.

I think Bryce is going to benefit from TMac’s ability to track the ball especially when the play breaks down. Legette wasn’t great at that last year. Im interested in seeing if XL comes back this year putting more of an emphasis on using his hands to catch the ball. If you go and watch all of XL’s receptions his final season at South Carolina he catches the ball the same way he did his rookie season. He’s never trusted his hands and it shows up when he’s asked to catch the ball over his shoulder. There’s always going to be frustrating drops if that’s how he’s going to try and catch the ball the rest of his career Scourton lost 20-25lbs after the college season. He actually played at a similar weight to his A&M weight his sophomore season at Purdue when he had 10 sacks. However, he said he felt his body was more tighter (weight wise) carrying that extra 20-25 at Purdue than at A&M. He said the weight loss wasn’t even done purposely but just him learning how to eat correctly.

Direct link: https://operations.nfl.com/gameday/nfl-schedule/2025-important-nfl-dates/ Panthers' specific dates: OTA Offseason Workouts: May 27-28, May 30, June 2-3, June 5 Mandatory Minicamp: June 10-12

Some will say it was due to toxicity, some will say it was because they were whiners. The world will never know. (it knows )

He should make the team based on his name alone!

Nice work and very helpful!

Steve Smith is a pretty below-average human being.

Semi-related/unrelated?: What are you looking to see from Allar next year? I remember you being high on him this year... were there any elements to his game that you see as a glaring weakness currently? I expect him to be a day one, at worst day two selection but if he somehow is there on day three...

There's always exceptions. The overall idea is more than reasonable as I mentioned... It's just hard to believe it as being sincere from some of the same people that have demanded another QB be taken ever since Bryce was announced as a Panther. If they exercise his fifth-year bonus option while actively working on a contract extension, then going out and throwing a day three flier at a prospect to hold the clipboard makes a ton of sense. It doesn't make much sense to do that now though (imo). There aren't many teams that are built to be fine if QB1 goes down and if they are it's likely because QB2 had just as strong of a chance of winning the starting position.

But do you remember ClayJ and his porn?

We are finally done being fuged by fitts poo draft trades

If you are on this message board, you are old as fug. Young bucks probably have no clue what message board is.

Very solid point.

Just here to give you props for ranking the kickers for this draft, impressive dedication my friend!

this place had been cooking for a few years before i got in here and already had an....ummmm......interesting culture. i remember it being called the panthers huddle before the team shut down that name and then the big crash after that ATL game in 2008 where Harry Douglas(?) went nuts.

Mina gives us a good draft review. ("I like their draft as a whole") (segment starts at 15:42)

I think we came away from this draft with at least 3 players that would actually be starters on other NFL teams. If so, that’s monumental for this franchise, historically speaking. There was no reaching. No projects. No significant injury history. No small school small conference tweener. Analytics took a back seat to game tape. Big dog schools in big dog conferences. Dan clearly went for football players who showed up on film. It’s almost like he didn’t care how the combine went. Time will tell, but I give it an A. It was a team building, infuse the team with some actual NFL talent and attitude type draft.

Well this FSU kicker was 6 of 9 in his collegiate career from 50+. Not 100% sure he will be better(hopefully so). I don't have good data on Pinero from my research. It appears the maximum 55+ yd FG's he has attempted is 3.

This board is funny.

Damn has it been that long since the first site name... Thanks Rayzor, I feel old as fug now. lol

Remember 2017 when we went into the playoffs with maybe 1 decent WR who was injured. Times sure have changed.