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If Tmac is the #1 read, I think it's safe to say he'll have 1k yards on the season. Our last 2 first round WRs before XL hit the mark (DJ and Benjamin). Hell, add up the missed yardage on Legette and he'd probably be knocking at the door. Refer to last season's first few games and substitute Diontae Johnson with McMillian. And If he plays every game, he'll most likely be in discussion for OROY.

Bryce will produce pencil it in

Hope he can back it up. Get to work. NFL ain’t no college.

Have people forgot his Clausen rant??? Including himself?? I get its been perfectly fine to lie over the years without judgement. "In 2010, Mel Kiper Jr. stated that he would retire if Jimmy Clausen didn't become a successful NFL quarterback within eight years." So mel gets to stay on for SEVEN years after the fact, the deal is Clausen was out of the league in 2015.......Mel stays on after stating on TV he'd retire if teh jimmy wasn't successful, then calls out the NFL for not being able to draft QBs?? I swear some people are allowed to get away with BS.....

Let’s hope that five hole stays shut mudder fudder

Based on his tape, he reminds me of Frankie Luvu - a heat seeking missile but just a raw, unpolished version. He’s definitely got the talent if we can develop him.

https://x.com/avl_mike/status/1915824670261080405?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

The good news is the overall 2026 class looks to be absolutely loaded https://www.theringer.com/2025/04/29/nfl-draft/26-best-prospects-2026-nfl-draft-arch-manning-garrett-nussmeier

So...... what you're saying is I got into 3 months worth of arguments and posting until my fingers hurt from typing out novels each day for nothing? Oh well, T-Mac is still a Panther in the end, totally worth it, LOL.

Well we won 5 games and it took the worst defense in NFL history to do that. IF we can stay relatively healthy and Bryce plays just like he did (not even saying better) after the benching you could arguably debate 9-10 wins. I wouldn't hold my breath but I wouldn't be shocked. The defensive improvement should be remarkable actually. Same corners, new dline, DB's return, updated safeties, same LB's ...+ the Dline's improvement should make every position about 25% better. If that's good enough to stop atleast 2 touchdowns more than we were able to last season then yea we're about to suprise alot of people imho.

The Sanders family's problem is that they raised Shedeur to have the exact same mindset and persona as Deion, and then used Deion as the example as to why it's not a problem. Even in that public interview at the combine, he gave some answer like, "do you know who my dad was and the things they said about him and he was still a HOFer?" The problem is his dad was a CB and sometimes a WR, the two positions in the NFL where not only nobody cares if you have that outward persona, in many cases it's something teams look for because WRs and CBs need to have that mentality out there on an island. His interview answer that's been going around about where you see yourself in 5 years, and his response of being Mayor of that town and laughing is a perfect example of it. There is no issue if that's your QB's mentality, we all know how Cam was. The problem is there is a different between mentality and outward persona, and that just flat out doesn't work for a QB to have that persona, Cam didn't even do it. There are a lot of QB's who have that mindset, in particular, Burrow right now strikes me as that kind of guy. But he still knows how to flip that QB Switch and tones it back when speaking publicly and is able to be the face of the franchise. Shedeur and Deion never seemed to grasp that for some reason, and it's a problem. Have you ever heard reports of GM's being asked by defensive players on their team to draft a QB solely because they wanted to crush them in practice? That's wild to even think of, let alone hear about actually happening. QB is unlike any position in all of sports, whether fair or not, you have to act differently when speaking in public or on camera, and Shedeur just doesn't, if anything, he leans even more into his Deion like persona.

This is where I am at, before I see what they show on the field. 5-9 wins The main deal and difference is Coaches right now. The talent is on the low end, * but its enough for them to compete. Evero this is your time and guess what Mr. former #1 overall, its time for you too. The saving grace is this piss poor NFC south. The fuging Yucs have won 4 str with 9-10 win season type of plays, feasting on this weak 6 game schedule. With some Luck panther *could* win 9 or 10 and steal a playoff game too. The truth is this is the 2nd year(really 1.5) into full 3 year rebuild. *After 2026 the cap should be fixed and the team shhhhoooould have some talent, young talent. Many will be in their prime years- dbrown, horn, hunt, BY, lewis, icky, moehrig etc. Then XL, brooks(pray), Wallace, sanders, 2025&2026 draft class will fill in the remaining spots.

T-Mac is legit… amazing route runner and all hand catches. Anyone who knows anything about football knows he has the tools to be legit. He just need to stay focused. Both T-Mac and Legette are a nightmare 1 on 1. There’s zero chance any team will put 9 in the box and we are run first team with 3 starting quality backs. Offense will be fun to watch.

This isn't exactly true considering Moss put up THE BEST SEASON OF HIS CAREER THAT YEAR. Moss just didn't play hard for losers.

First on T-Mac, I 100% expect him to be the top WR from this class, however I think expecting him to put up 1k+ as a rookie isn't necessarily fair, especially since you're putting it in perspective of how many other rookie WRs have done that in recent years. And Thielen is the reason for that. Not many (if any) of those 1k+ rookies had someone like Thielen there when they were drafted, and no matter how good T-Mac is this year, Bryce is still going to lean on his existing chemistry with Thielen unless he's drastically lost a step this offseason and just can't get open like he's been able to in his career. As I pointed out in another thread the other day, looking at MHJ last year is the way to look at T-Mac's season if Thielen plays a full and healthy season. MHJ had McBride "steal" 110+ catches and 1,100+ yards in what was a pass happy offense (Kyler was 9th in the league in attempts), it's going to be hard for any rookie to put up more than the 800ish yards he had last year in that scenario. Especially if we follow a similar game plan to last year and be a run heavy team. In terms of XL, you're completely right, jumping up to get a project 2/3 isn't smart, and if we knew we needed a future slot from that pick, yes, Ladd would have been a much better pick. But at this point, those are all sunk costs, even taking T-Mac at 8 is now considered a sunk cost. Forgetting the past or who we maybe should have taken last year now knowing future roles, I still think T-Mac, XL, Coker can be one of the Top 1-3 WR rooms in the NFL in a few years, I honestly think they really do have that potential in them.

Maybe we should have just drafted a corner? Crazy, I know. One of the few positions we knew had to be addressed in the draft and nadda.

Love his story. I'll be rooting for him!

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Yeah but jumping up in the draft to get a project #2/3 WR is just plain not smart. I am down on XL because the thought was that he could be a potential #1 WR and he has been anything but that so far. Also, the idea of him as a slot is even more upsetting because you pass on several more productive slot guys(McConkey being the most obvious) that were TREMENDOUSLY more NFL ready. I was not a fan of the XL move at the time and I am not a fan of the decision in short term hindsight either. He is just simply going to have to be a guy that proves it on the field to me. McMillian was my #1 WR in this draft and I was a pro-McMillian guy. However, he isn't gonna get treated with baby gloves either. We are in the era of rookie WR's putting up 1k+ yd seasons with regularity. He's going to(barring injury) have to be one of the top 2 or 3 WR's in this class in terms of production. And that's being very generous to him. He really needs to be THE guy from this class. It isn't like he is gonna have a lot of guys taking catches away from him.

Thought this was an interesting moment of candor. See the 2:00 min mark. TD said he made the decision that he wanted T-Mac as our 1st round pick back in January. Dan chimed in and said he made the decision early as well (indicating the same time frame).